Kirk was alive and well in the Nexus the whole time. Star Trek Discovery Season 3 Release Date. LOL, I couldn’t disagree more on Discovery’s shape. Even though it was shown in one of the best theatres in our area, it still wasn’t great. My point is that there were many types of drives – viable or not – that were documented in the 23/24 centuries. away from the Federation / Star Fleet in the future and parked in a nebula because the Fed has to be corrupted or worse. The crew finally got around to changing their uniforms. Dr. Culber (Wilson Cruz) is gazing at the gormagander, a sentient cosmozoan species, which have a very similar production design and undulating motion to the giant space orchids we saw in "Picard." Mom mentioned that they looked different in the show and they were scarier now. More, to avoid revealing they have a new kind of drive, high warp capability is needed.). She has to deal with the Emerald Chain that happens to have some crucial parts and scraps from the actual Red Angel Suit that Michael believes it must be from her own suit that she had sent back. (A couple of episodes here involving the Emerald Chain and the attempt to recover the suit unsuccessfully.). And even if the external hull was all new, all the bulkheads inside surely are not, and those are made of Duranium and can be quantum dated. Just noticed a typo – third paragraph, end of the last sentence – “until a raft shows up” should be “until CRAFT shows up.” Annoying that you can only edit a comment for a short period of time after it’s posted :p. Okay, after looking at the theories of other posters I have come up with a very convincing storyline. They seem cool and sci-fi and awesome. As Admiral Vance has stated in the last two episodes, Starfleet does not have the ships or man power it did in the 23rd or 24th century. Discovery isn’t a name that’s used much. Beginning roughly ten years before the events of Star Trek: The Original Series, the show sees the Klingon houses become united in a war with the United Federation of Planets that heavily involves the crew of the USS Discovery (NCC-1031). There were many complaints about TMP, and the new look for the Klingons was way down the list. The reason being because it wanted to continue what it had done when it was The Sphere. Seems to be the cheap way out of just about everything these days. Only taking on DNA from a mycelium creature he was able to do it without almost flying into a star or only going short distances. Therefore, the audience would have to wait for a while to have the next season of USS Discovery’s adventures. NOTE: I assume Calypso is part of canon and not a one-off short trek that should not be canon. I don’t understand why someone would spend so much time talking about something they like so little. When the Emerald Chain tried to send Michaels’ New Red Angel suit back to MB, it malfunctioned and crashed into 3069 causing The Burn. Follow us on Twitter @Spacedotcom and on Facebook. Games Movies TV Video. 1 Episodes 2 Summary 3 Background information 3.1 Awards 4 Credits 4.1 Main cast 4.2 Special guest star 4.3 Crew 5 See also 6 External link On 27 February 2019, it was announced that the series had been renewed for a third season. On Discovery, Osyraa together with a spectacularly underused Zareh (Jake Weber) urges a reluctant Aurellio (Kenneth Mitchell) to begin torturing Book. No, it’s clearly Disco O’Very, an Irish-built copy of Discovery. So I’d rather have had them park the pizza cutter in the nebula for Calpyso and get a whole new, genuinely 32nd century Discovery 1031-A, which incidentally would’ve also better fit previously established registry conventions, most prominently with the 1701-A! Makes me feel a little less frustrated with the “A” designation now. Well, actually I think they are portraying the new starfleet ships…refits and all pretty well. It’s going to be one of those headache inducing, boot strapping, closed time loop things where they figure out that they have to go back in time to make sure that their present happens. Why keep the existing font? I don’t think this is a canon issue at all. Then in a really weird moment, Osyraa tries to shove Burnham into…what we can only assume is meant to be the actual data core. 5. This could be related to why the ship arrived one year after Michael arrived in the 32nd century. The third season would likely return sometime in late 2020. Sound off in the comments below. In the blink of an eye, Burnham disables one Regulator, activates a "quarantine shield" and blasts another. Those could be used. That wouldn’t work if the ship is actually in the past. Simple solution: do a Star Wars style update and fix the cgi in Calypso to add the -A. It’s NCC # isn’t to my recollection mentioned in dialog. (Notice without the “A”) Which is the designation of another secret science vessel that was experimenting with time travel based instant propulsion tech which disappeared in mysterious circumstances. While it makes sense for the Discovery to be upgraded, especially so it can defend itself, the new refit creates a bit of an issue in terms of canon. pic.twitter.com/kh1n03k7v7, — Star Trek on CBS All Access (@startrekcbs) November 21, 2020. If you like these kinds of deep dives, check out more of our analysis and theory articles. I don’t think there is any continuity mismatch greater than TNG’s “Relics” and “Generations”. Likely they would have learned that Stamets was part of a larger 23rd Century research team that failed on 4 beta versions or iterations of their drive (this is my supposition… science rarely gets it right the 1st time out) before landing on the current iteration of the spore drive used in the 1031. I really am fond of the S1 look, although I know it was a bitch for the actors to express through all the prostheses. That’s why its 32nd-century design is still reminiscent of the 24th-century one, and it is still designated as an Intrepid class. In some circumstances, crystals could be re-amplified to provide continued service, rather than replaced. By: Anthony Pascale Theory A: We have another episode of MB and Michael fighting in space for control of the suit and blah blah blah. Please refresh the page and try again. And of course we saw Spock’s vision as one of those alternate timelines, in which they were not able to save sentient life. Sorry Tiger if you can’t unsee that image now! Established Trek canon has shown that a starship (namely the Enterprise) is given a new suffix after the registry number whenever a new ship of the same name is commissioned. I think this is another example of what I have stated elsewhere in the forums. Not having an “A” at the end of the registry or those ludicrous detached nacelles (facepalm) are relative minutiae. Even before 'Star Trek: Discovery' Season 3, the USS Discovery has already been to the future. That’s why we’re getting Zora’s evolved British voice and interest in old visual media. There’s also a Canadian naval reserve station by the name in Vancouver. Star Trek: Discovery - Season 3 Photos: "Scavengers" ... while the universe building of the 32nd century continues with an upgrade to the USS Discovery herself that is surprisingly extreme. Voyager-J! Star Trek TMP, with all the ridged klingons must have been a nightmare for the fans at the cinema. That was the infuriating thing about Generations Nexus….you’ve just introduced a mobile Guardian, cruising around the cosmos. I wrote off the “Generations” gaffe as being that Scotty just assumed Kirk wasn’t really dead, since they never found his body. We've said in the past that the most consistent thing with the third season of "Star Trek: Discovery" on CBS All Access is how inconsistent it is and its season finale doesn't do anything to alter our opinion. The Burn was actually caused by a faction in the future that wanted to neutralize the Federation and freeze space travel by limiting it which in itself is a violation of the temporal accord stuff. So, forgetting about that too…it detonates and damages the nacelle coupling, causing the Discovery to drop out of warp. Second, are we supposed to believe that, regardless of the secrecy behind her existence in the 23rd century, that they never used the name “Discovery” for a Starfleet ship over the following 900 years?!? Programming the ship's computer to begin the simulation after she died seems like a poorly thought out plan. So Michaels eventually discovers that The Burn was caused by an explosion that has traces of tachyon radiation similar to what the Red Angel suit creates. However, season three has already started to directly reference the future seen in “Calypso.” As another previous analysis highlighted, we have seen dialogue in season three (most notably the word “V’draysh “) that picks up on elements of “Calypso.” More importantly, the season three episode “Forget Me Not” showed how the ancient Sphere Data the ship picked up in season two is evolving and integrating with the USS Discovery, heading towards becoming the Zora AI seen in “Calypso.” They even brought back the actress who provided Zora’s voice. You should be in the writers’ room. My theory is this: Calypso happened between Episode 1 and Episode 2 of this year. Despite everything that's been said here, this episode was still better than the Season 1 finale of "Picard" and the second season finale of "Discovery.". The Star Trek: Discovery season 3 is Thursday, October 15, 2020 on CBS All Access. Star Trek rules have essentially said every time you travel in time you create a new timeline. Michael entered the wormhole deeper in the gravity well. There was a problem. Boo. Yup, or sends the bots out to blast it off. There’s even a self-congratulatory video up on st. com with Ms. Philips feting her use of “armor elements”. Inside Starfleet HQ, Admiral Vance (Oded Fehr) gives orders that every starship open fire on Discovery while the Viridian, Osyraa's (Janet Kidder) ship is blasting the shield from outside. The ship now fully sentient is capable of defending itself and making decisions. Not the Orions, Andorians or Vulcans are the enemies, it is Starfleet and not by malintent. Real life doesn’t answer every question, especially from the singular perspective. Friggin’ noob. It is either bad writing, or there is something deeper in the world building. However due to Discovery having 31st Century technology it can no longer be part of the Federation. "That's when a normal chromosomal separation is disrupted in utero. At some point in the future, the USS Discovery gets “defit” and “de-registered,” returning it to factory condition. I really really hope not. I can not guess as to the circumstances that will lead to this but I believe the writers will do this so they can have crossovers with Picard and Strange New Worlds much more easily. Even I as someone who thinks Discovery is the weakest Star Trek series by far (it’s not even Trek to me) can let them off not having these small details wrapped up. And even the multiple timelines that proliferate in Parallels will fold back into one or a few main lines. was showing that even if they just abandoned the ship and prevented Control getting it, the future wouldn’t be great. Either way I’m not going to just stop watching the show because of it or anything. And Michael having to finally destroy her Red Angel Suit like she did the first time. I enjoy the series and have a high level or tolerance for suspension of disbelief. Report abuse . Basically it uses a temporal drive that allows it to seemingly teleport across universes but in reality it is just distorting time. Doug Jones stated a few weeks ago they are staying in the 32nd century permanently. Otherwise what is the actual point of building advanced, detachable warp nacelles when most of travel is now non-FTL? Nous savons depuis quelque temps que CBS All Access a commandés une saison 3 de Star Trek Discovery. Burnham’s hair growth in the 1st episode is the tell, in my opinion. But hell, they will be the season baddies! It seems the ships we have seen so far still do pew pew pew which is neither a 23rd or 32nd century feature but a Kurtzman /Abrams feature ;). Close. So in actuality Discovery was destroyed on arrival, and that is what Detmer’s PTSD is about. We just didn’t get much in the episode outside of the changed nacelles and the new A. One of the major themes of this season was supposed to be the change in Burnham, ultimately preparing her for the role of captain. It seems that every "Star Trek" finale incorporates a large-scale space fight; it's not clear if the writers on "Star Trek" are aware that the story arc can include a large-scale space fight at any point in the season and an equivalent amount of tension can be achieved through a number of dramatic methods. In our latest (which you can stream below) TrekMovie editors Tony and Laurie also discussed this refit canon conundrum. Well, it seemed like a half hour because I was 6. After making a more than 900-year jump in time, the old USS Discovery was … Star Trek: Discovery Season 3 just broke a major rule of movie canon. DID have access to an alternative at one point. Which meshes with the reason Control wanted the ship/ Sphere Data in the first place. Que s’est il passé dans l’épisode précédent ? But yes that could all change. With Discovery in the 32nd century, crossovers with any of the current or planned shows is pretty difficult. Future Starfleet will try everything to stop them from changing the timeline because it would whipe them out entirely. Just a minor inconsistency, that’s all. Those prosthetics are just total overkill and interfere too much with dialogue. Why wouldn’t that be out there in the 32nd century? The Klingons had become a joke by the end of the TNG-ENT run of Trek, looked like 80’s heavy metal throwbacks. So now Control is in the future. That’s very interesting! Now, I know crossovers aren’t mandatory for a good show, but you got to admit, the writers have got to be considering how much fun they can have with crossovers. Agreed, resets have become quite the trope in Star Trek, almost as bad as the constant Time Travel.THIS time travel should have meaning, and that means some kind of consequence. A science specialist on the USS Discovery who is promoted to captain at the end of the third season. A lire sur AlloCiné : Décevante dans son ensemble, la seconde saison de Star Trek Discovery s’est néanmoins achevée hier soir aux États-Unis par un final à grand spectacle. After an epic and upbeat Season 3, Star Trek: Discovery has lightly tapped the reset button again. According to reports, The production work for Star Trek Discovery Season 3 will likely begin in July 2019. But given the number of Naval ships that rolled out of the yards in Vancouver and Victoria during WW2, it’s clearly a reserved name. The crew became lost but not forgotten at the end of Season 2. The saucer is way too small for that giant triangle (or the the triangle too big). Thinking her daughter was in Disco at that time, the mother travels into the past (to 3069) to create The Burn to prevent Discovery getting destroyed on arrival. Adira adds to his dubious deduction by informing us matter-of-factly that dilithium has a subspace component, consequently Su'Kal would have a genetic connection to subspace as well. AI in self-preservation bid suggests that upgrades be undone and that it will travel back in time. Its not a big deal. (TOS: “Mudd’s Women”). Then the mystery of the whereabouts of Gabrielle deepens. Agreed. Most homevid versions seemed brighter too, but that’s no guarantee of anything given all the variables with transfers. She's been tasked with delivering the thermonuclear device into the nacelle coupling superconductor thingamajig, but her air is running out. My point is that something about this 32nd century iteration of the Federation is OFF. Although I can’t remember if that violates any details Calypso gave us about when or why the crew abandoned her. The USS Discovery crash-landed in Star Trek: Discovery season 3, episode 2 "Far From Home," but, by the end of the episode, it achieved liftoff once more, unlike the other Starfleet ships that crash-landed in other Star Trek TV shows and movies. Most importantly, in “Calypso” the ship did not have the new NCC-1031-A registry. I saw it in a smallish theatre in Joplin, MO, but it was the best theatre in town at the time. And Discovery is able to return to its own timeline. The vger part of the shot wasn’t finalized till just a couple weeks before everything locked, so that comp certainly could have used a redo if there had been time. I think part of the bad experience in the theater first-run may have had to do with odd factors. (DIS: \"Context Is for Kings\")Six months into the war, Discovery rescued the prison shuttle SPT 21 from an infestation of Species GS54 during an interst… Agreed. You will receive a verification email shortly. Much like spice melange was key to interstellar travel in Dune. There are 930 years of new science that should have given someone an idea on taking a prior failure and McGuyver-ing it into a non-dilithium-based solution by now. It’s funny, there are a lot or hex shapes (mostly coffin-shaped hexs) in 2001 as well, and I remember that one of my main takeaways was how the excavation site on the moon had walls that seemed entirely built with patterns of these coffin-hex-forms. – where the 32nd Century Federation / Star Fleet leadership were not aware of seed ships carrying indigenous seeds from the original member worlds that could save those aliens in episode 305, it would explain a lot. back to their own timeline, or go back to the future timeline. God, I hate modern Star Trek…for myriad reasons! If we are to assume that the USS Discovery seen in “Calypso” is a future version of the ship seen in season three, there is a simple way to make it all work. :D. LOL, I’m on the internet, I’ve seen worse! And perhaps another version in another timeline split off and it is that ship which was seen in “Calypso.”, Craft aboard the USS Discovery in “Calypso”. The vast space in-between Discovery's decks is more like the docks of Tycho station in "The Expanse. The crew finally got around to updating their uniforms. So, they may just not be able to travel to a benamite rich source with their limited warp capacity. But they were not in the same universe. Dependency on that power meant the starships risked losing the ability to maintain an orbit, let alone use of their warp drive, when a number of dilithium crystals were drained of their power or became fused in their assembly. Dilithium is a consumed, scarce resource needed for Warp. At some point the Disco crew is able to uncover the reason for the Burn, and it is directly related to their trip to the future (their temporal incursion caused an instability in subspace, which destabilized dilithium – or some other sufficiently technobabble reason). They remain in the future but it is a different 32nd century. As per my last post, it could be that when Michaels mother, Gabrielle, returned to the future she discovered that Discovery was destroyed on arrival due to the Temporal Accords. Just float Discovery through it once on a recon mission, pop back through again to fix The Burn, then pop back through to cancel Control, then pop back through to alert Michael that pulling a Phaser on the captain is a bad idea….. Now, just substitute Chronometric particles or slingshotting, and you see the problem. I think it’s pretty impressive that Kurtzman and his band of mediocre writers (I’m trying to be generous at the beginning of a new week) have even managed to get the Discovery (still the ugliest Star Trek ship ever) in the timeframe of Calypso and have teed up Zora. USS Battle Born - a proud chapter of Starfleet International On top of that, I doubt the Timefleet in the 29th century was using matter/antimatter reactors to travel through time and space. – Why would there be a human/humanoid person (Craft) who is fighting against the future version of the Federation / Star Fleet? Again, I don’t like this bending of previously-established unwritten rules, but it seems to fit with what we’ve seen on screen. Season 3 of “Star Trek: Discovery” began Oct. 15 with Cmdr. And prior to "Star Trek: Discovery" most of those were maintained. First she gets reprimanded by Vance and demoted by Saru. Voyager (the TV show) had many different types of alternative FTL drives that Janeway wanted to get her hands on. Curious kids: Could a human enter a black hole to study it? This seems to indicate, then, that the USS Voyager NCC-74656-J is not the 11th starship to bear the name, but in fact the SAME USS Voyager launched in 2371 under Janeway’s command, having undergone 800 years worth of major refits, receiving a new letter suffix after the registry each time. I’m still trying to grasp the logic behind the registry number suffixes. It’s not the same font as it was, and it has a line around it. Once they stop the burn, Burnham’s mother sends the crew of Disco back to their own timeline. The bridge crew, led by Ensign Tilly (Mary Wiseman) are attempting to reach the bridge, blasting Osyraa's Regulators with the help of the those little DOT-23 droids that are now being controlled by the sphere data/Zora. That episode did show that the USS Discovery had evolved, but mainly through it being controlled by a sentient AI named Zora. The following analysis has spoilers (and potential spoilers) for Discovery season three. But Zora/Discovery could have easily just gone back to the future but it chose not to. 1 Episodes 2 Summary 3 Background information 3.1 Awards 4 Credits 4.1 Main cast 4.2 Special guest star 4.3 Crew 5 See also 6 External link On 27 February 2019, it was announced that the series had been renewed for a third season. TMP starts with bumpy Kilingons, then goes to give us the “Vulcan’s Moon” conundrum. Register Start a Wiki. I am trying to leave room for hope. In old-school canon, the three biggest stars on the Federation flag used to represent Earth, Vulcan, and Andoria, since those were a few o… CBS/Paramount, Star Trek Universe TV, Star Trek: Picard, CBS/Paramount, Discovery, Star Trek Universe TV, I tend to think Calypso is Zora’s daydream in response to the time jump – possibly even during refit, when she’s ‘shut down.’. However, the finished Red Angel Suit is stolen by the Emerald Chain on instructions from the Mysterious Benefactor of the Cabal (henceforth referred to as MB). Get breaking space news and the latest updates on rocket launches, skywatching events and more! From what I understand pretty much all warp drives are dilithium dependent and all slipstream drives need benamite. The new Picard series debuts later in 2019. But history says the repeated and obvious answer is the answer. This is either bad writing or there is a deeper narrative that we have not caught on to. The Discovery arrives just in time and beams everyone off the Khi'eth, which naturally disintegrates seconds later. The shuttle sequence during the “year” she’s waiting on Discovery is intended to show the passage of time with the growth of Burnham’s hair. And yet that’s what a lot of fans were crying about lol. I hope I’m remembering that wrong, but it seems etched in my mind now that I am flashing back to age 17 (indulge me, today’s my birthday.). Add new page. I wouldn’t want to see Worf get a nu-Klingon makeover though. never to exit? The Borg had a transwarp network, but that wasn’t necessary for using transwarp drive. 11.23.2020 1:30 PM . 2. Burnham makes her way to the data core while Book dispenses with Zareh, who falls out of an open turbolift and plummets hundreds of feet to his ultimate death below. Does he have new commitments elsewhere? 3. It’s akin to putting a chain mail amor on a soldier in a WW2 movie. Read more. 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